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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby micfranklin » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:52 pm

ISIS needs to go, all of them. Plain and simple.
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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby John Galt » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:05 pm

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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby Spider » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:19 pm

Don't forget the Russians. They're pretty active over there... and there's still Assad to consider. Are we talking just grinding ISIS, or actual regime change in Syria? Or both?
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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby Saz » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:34 am

No one is invading anyone. There will be some peace march and a little muslim girl will stand with france and that will be the end of it. Police get more surveillance powers, Le Pen picks up in the polls, and then it happens again somewhere else in 6 months or a year.

More broadly, this doesn't change any of the strategic complications of dealing with Syria, which is why we shouldn't do it.
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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby Cal-Pak » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:35 am

Maybe this act will finally be enough for the "major" powers(since the US is the only "Super Power") to actually do something against ISIS.
France, UK, US, and Germany(who is being inundated with refugees) could easily send 500,000 or more troops to Iraq/Syria and put an end
to these people in a relatively short period of time.

The thing I keep hearing about sending troops, is "the death toll" if we do.
Well, this makes clear the death toll will still be there whether we send troops or not.
Obama needs to send troops to finish this, because if ISIS strikes in the US
He will forever be known as the President who allowed a terrorist organization to form, and then attack the US.
The key word being "Allowed". What we are doing is not going to end ISIS.
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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby lnrw » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:57 am

Obama certainly bears a lot of responsibility, but he didn't allow them to form. They were already formed. Everything was well in place to facilitate their growth, splintering cells and function.

This is not new and not unknown, except by the general population that mostly focuses on the kardashians, bruce kaitlan jenner and football scores.
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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby Kane » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:40 am

I'd say this is pretty bad. Hollande looks weak and will try to make up for that with bombastic rhetoric as well as action. France may end up leading the charge of a more unified and militant Europe. Marie La Pen will instantly go up in the polls. This bodes very poorly for any migrants attempting to get into Europe.

And an overreaction by any players could lead to further destabilization in the middle east.

I'd like to see a subdued yet strong military response along with a call by Europe to get entirely off oil. The only way you can prompt the regional powers in the ME to change is to change the dynamics they thrive off of. Call it a New Manhattan project.
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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby lnrw » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:49 am

The US starts the wars and Europe gets the refugees. Many of those refugees are young able bodied men capable of fighting against the militant threats in their countries. But they don't, they run and hide, looking for an upgrade in address. I find this very curious.

The un is as irrelevant as it's high minded empty windbag rhetoric. It seems to be much more of a getaway opportunity for useless, well paid, appointed bureaucrats , wearing Armani suits while many of the rest of their countrymen wear rags. than anything else. They issue a lot of edicts and produce almost no results of any kind. Maybe some pamphlets that no one reads. Hopefully, it disappears sooner instead of later.
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Re: 100+ people killed in French terror attacks.

Postby spacemonkey » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:04 pm

In the future, any attacks by those lowlife halfwits should not be called a terrorist attack, rather an attack by cowards. **==
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