"Et tu, TRUMP?" - Republican Party

[Medius]

[Indy]

[Philly]

Whereas the Dems believe everyone should get care but those who can't afford it should be bankrupted and lose everything after they get the care. There's no moral high ground defending the ACA.

[Medius]

[Medius]

[spacemonkey]

Why didn't people with pre existing conditions get an exemption from medicare paycheck withholdings? Oh wait, pre existing is a gift from the middleman glutton that needs gone.

[John Galt]

[exploited]

[The Comrade]

BLM the message and BLM the movement are hilariously at odds with one another.

[Indy]

[quote]ou do realize, that "what we had before" is an alternative right? In fact, nothing is also an alternative. As is killing all sick people or single payer.

These are all alternatives. What you mean is no alternative that gets us closer to single payer or perhaps no alternative that rejects entirely the previous system.

This is the fallacy you fall into here. You don't like what we have, so you create a false narrative in which it must change and any plan for change must create the change that is only favorable to your decided direction, or the other side has no plan.

And yes, some individuals want to dismantle social programs. But you targeted the whole party. Again though, I'm not fond of having to play advocate for them as I disagree with much of their stance. In fact, on health care, you'll find that I'm much closer to your side of things, however, I don't agree with the awful tactics and steps being used to get there./[quote]

LOL!!! False narrative? Riiiiiiiiiight. The GOP has. No. Plan. Period. No matter how much you want to sell the idea that "nothing is also an alternative," it's not. It's nothing.

To them healthcare is a privilege, not a right, and spending taxpayer money on health care for those who otherwise couldn't afford it is the slippery slope of socialism (eek!) providing Cadillac health plans to freeloaders at the expense of working-class Jethros.

They have no problem dumping trillions down the toilet to attempt--and fail--to nation-build in places like Iraq or Afghanistan but OMG if we spend it on sick Americans the next Mao is just around the corner. How you can even deny this is beyond absurd.