Damn...Trump just ended Cruz's marriage (and campaign)

[Philly]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN GREAT DEPRESSION GALT?!??! WHATS GREAT ABOUT DEPRESSION?!?!? TELL US WHY PEOPLE LOSING THEIR JOBS AND THEIR HOMES IS SO WONDERFUL!!!!

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[Indy]

So why does everybody not refer to him as "The Great Hitler"? Or the "Great Dubya"?

BTW, even using your tortured logic, calling Dubya "great" because of his "accomplishments" is clown-tastic.

[Philly]

He was great because he was the ruler of the free world for 8 years and most certainly changed the course of our country (for the worse, but greatness is for better or for worse)

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[Philly]

Didn't Indy once say that if he was president he would publicly label Pakistan an enemy nation? Lol

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[Indy]

Well then if we're going to go that route, then all presidents were great men because, as Ex Ex-plained (that's it! Better term to replace man-splained!), just by becoming president George W. Bush was a "great" man.

Now, where this all goes off the rails is your limited use of the definition "great", because any objective standard Dubya was an abysmal failure as a president, for all the reasons I cited above and what could be summarized as a presidency where he created ungodly messes and then left them for his successor to clean up. So if we ignore all that then maybe, kinda, sorta, maybe we could say he was a "great" man. But we won't. He was a failure. So was his presidency. So into the toilet goes the idea we're going to refer to him as "great" when that was his lasting impact having held office. Plus the idea that he was an intellectual--LOL.

Sorry, you cannot divorce what they did during their lives from how you're defining "great." Gandhi is somebody who would merit great. MLK. Lincoln.

But Hitler or Dubya? Seriously, stop.

[Philly]

You still think "great" means "very good" but it doesn't

Most great men were tyrants and/or monsters. Throughout most of human history, the power to do great things came only through brutality and wickedness.

[Indy]

Again you guys are just playing semantical games.

Ask 100 people on the street to name "great" men in history and how many do you think are going to cough up names like Hitler or Dubya?

Oh, because you're adhering to a strict, academic definition you're going to say they're all wrong. OK, we're all wrong!

EVEN using that definition the idea that Dubya or Ted Cruz are "great" men is preposterous. This is all based on assertions made by Ex that were completely debatable. Only if you accept his assertions of their "accomplishments" that made them great would that work. I don't.