We're so f*cked

[ToddStarnes]

Probably. Enjoy the ride while it lasts and get citizenship elsewhere if you can. Canada's probably the last bastion in the West that isn't teetering on the brink of alt-right populist-style insanity.

Oh Canadddaaaaaa

[Spider]

[ToddStarnes]

[Spider]

Dude...you're idealizing people. Being on one side of an arbitrary imaginary line doesn't matter. The very worst experience with hateful ignorant rednecks I've ever had was that side of said imaginary line. My wife's whole family are a bunch of religious fundamentalist nutjobs who actually seem to like trump. There are no more than a dozen Canadians in all of BC who think that guy isn't an underhuman...and I find myself related to nearly all of them. Canadia is much like the US in that you'll find a larger proportion of perfectly decent sorts in the cities...and then you drive for a while and find yourself in a sprawling maple leaf adorned red state. That sounds horribly bigoted towards ruralites, but I don't care. I spent a significant chunk of my childhood amongst them and I know exactly what they are. Characterizing Canadians this way is sort of like pointing out British dental problems or calling the French assholes. Its stereotyping.

They like to think think they're different. We seem to like to think they're different. Oh, Canada. How quaint. They're polite, up there, right? lol. (Not everyone can be Massholes I guess)

But we're both wrong. They aren't different. People are just people. And N Americans on both sides of that imaginary line have grown up from the dirt together from nothing along norms established by the same cultural basis. Every time I see either a Canadian or American extolling the virtues or detriments of either/or...it's just ridiculous. Like people from North Dakota and South Dakota trying to convince themselves and everyone else that Bismarck and Pierre are so different...

[ToddStarnes]

You seem to be denying the possibility of the existence of cultural differences....? Or just saying we're similar because we share a border and, generally, a heritage? It's pretty different IMO. The existence of a dozen people in BC supporting Trump actually supports my position

[exploited]

Dylan is correct that Canadians are different. We are. We are not Americans and we never will be, right or wrong.

However, Spider is correct that Canadians are not that different. I know plenty of guys who would fit in politically, culturally and socially with the American South, with no difficulties at all.

[Spider]

[exploited]

The states that border Canada should be absorbed back into Her Majesty's Empire. We'll clean up Detroit, plus Toronto and NYC can become the mega-city they so desperately want to be.

[ToddStarnes]

Washington state would be eager to be welcomed into the fold. You can start by annexing all the way from the border to Bellingham. Half those people work in Canada already anyway and have been smoking Canadian weed since high school. Then work your way down to seattle. Leave California where it is. Oregon can come. But not central Oregon. Or eastern Washington.

[Winchester]