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Re: Space Force?

Postby JDHURF » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:50 am

Trump and his ramblings about a "Space Force" is essentially nothing more than the even more asinine version of Reagan's "Star Wars" extravaganza.

Reagan: "Make America strong again"; "Star Wars."

Trump: "Make America great again"; "Star Force."

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Postby John Galt » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:43 am

Reagan called it SDI, strategic defense initiative, and apparently you know nothing of either of them because SDI was a ballistic missile defense system... Which we have in other forms today, and which is terrestrial
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Re: Space Force?

Postby Spider » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:35 am

Star Wars wasn't actually anything. Just another facet of that moron Reagan tripling the national debt on wild spending with no end result beyond hoping to f**k with the Soviets, which set us on the course of the GOP blowing money insanely forevermore because "debt doesn't matter." It was vaporware that for the most part is STILL technically unfeasible.
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Re: Space Force?

Postby John Galt » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:53 am

Yeah and the Soviet Union didn't even bat an eye. We should really be discussing today if the Western world should be called the second world instead amirite

Jesus f**k the partisanship is ridiculous

Also I didn't know that "technically infeasible" means a success rate less than 100%. I thought it meant that it has a success rate of zero percent and cannot foresee a situation where it would be above zero. Who knew??????
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Re: Space Force?

Postby Spider » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:11 pm

You gotta read, man. I said "for the most part". Which is correct. Very little came of any of it. All those orbiting space lasers. Pretty great. Also those bomb-pumped x-ray lasers. Haven't seen those anywhere outside of a David Webber book. Pew! Pew! The orbital interceptor platforms, the railgun battle stations, etc etc. :))

We can barely even keep a manned station on orbit.

Those x-ray lasers though. Some day.....
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Re: Space Force?

Postby John Galt » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:23 pm

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Re: Space Force?

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Re: Space Force?

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Re: Space Force?

Postby John Galt » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:08 am

He didn't call it star wars, and even if he did, it's completely irrelevant, because the space force is NOT the same as SDI. SDI was about stopping missiles. Space force is far more than that. We're talking deploying troops at any point in the world within two hours. We're talking anti satellite capability. We're talking infrastructure buildup to secure the high ground. I've already spent far too much time on your fallacies but I'll stay one more but

And I'm sorry your holy land of communism was destroyed товарищ but it was indeed from sustained economic pressure by the US. The СССР couldn't keep up with spending 20% of GDP/40% of their budget on the military while the US spent a comparable pittance and were outspending them. It caused them to have to pull out of Warsaw pact interference in their sphere and finally their own collapse. It was glorious, and that victory was Reagan's.

So back to the space force. It is a reorg and a pivot towards space. It's really Near-Earth force as it's not yet projecting beyond the reach of the moon, and frankly most operations will center on LEO but this is an important thing to do. The security of our future depends on meeting the challenges of tomorrow with answers today. We need to think bigger because our enemies certainly are. The area needs to be secured against hostile takeover. We need security to create the infrastructure we need to help sustain humanity and the planet. We didn't build the interstates for commerce. We built them so that if our mortal enemies the Communists invaded we could rapidly respond. It just so happened that commerce increasing was a byproduct. Similarly building infrastructure in space will accomplish same dual goals.
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