WAR is afoot (maybe, probably not).
If Russia invades we probably need to do something. Ukraine gave up nukes on the basis of our guarantee.
Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
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Re: Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
by Philly » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:30 pm
go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
by Philly » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:37 pm
go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
by ToddStarnes » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:05 pm
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Re: Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
by John Galt » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:42 pm
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Re: Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
by ToddStarnes » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:53 pm
Fair enough. I agree we should provide said guarantee.
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Re: Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
by Spider » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:04 pm
With other signatories, yes. Get a bunch of NATO heavies to pitch in. The idea of Germany, Poland, France, Turkey, and Britain sitting there on their thumbs while we end up fighting f**k Russia in their own backyard is heinous.
Not that those guys are going to put their names next to trump's on anything at this point. Bridges are already ashes drifting downstream...
Not that those guys are going to put their names next to trump's on anything at this point. Bridges are already ashes drifting downstream...
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Re: Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
by Kane » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:30 pm
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukra ... SKBN1O32IV
Apparently Ukraine is on edge because this all reminds them of 2014. Maybe we'll see Russia test the US and the EU's resolve?
Apparently Ukraine is on edge because this all reminds them of 2014. Maybe we'll see Russia test the US and the EU's resolve?
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Re: Russia seizes Ukrainian vessels
by John Galt » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:16 pm
they've already tested it multiple times and found it lacking
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