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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby jimmyz » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:20 pm

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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby exploited » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:48 pm

It isn't sustainable. This is what is so frustrating. The closest comparison I have is NIMBYism, but for taxes and spending. Everybody wants to address the deficit, nobody wants spending cuts, nobody wants tax increases. It makes no sense at all and the demand for more programs and more cuts is growing each and every year.

Ontario is easily one of the worst managed subnational government in the Western world, if not the worst.

I actually favour getting rid of the provincial level of government entirely. Devolve the bulk of power to municipalities, with the exception of whatever makes more sense to go to the feds. They simply aren't responsive and don't make much sense now. They did when the bulk of every province was almost entirely rural, but now places like the GTA exist, and so nobody gets the government they want.
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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby Saz » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:15 pm

DON'T BE A TOUGH GUY. DON'T BE A FOOL! I WILL CALL YOU LATER.
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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby Saz » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:20 pm

DON'T BE A TOUGH GUY. DON'T BE A FOOL! I WILL CALL YOU LATER.
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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby exploited » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:27 pm

There would be no tax slack if there wasn't a constant drive to shift the tax burdens around the plebs every couple of years, on the whim of whomever forms the government. This is recurring and has been going on for my entire life.

People want programs, don't want to pay for them. Tough luck, that's life.

Get used to deficits, or get used to taxes. Or get used to no all-day kindergarten.

Still, I think it is fair to say that there are other deductions that can go first. And I'm fine with making child deductions go last. So long as they go.
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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby Saz » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:29 pm

DON'T BE A TOUGH GUY. DON'T BE A FOOL! I WILL CALL YOU LATER.
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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby exploited » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:30 pm

That is a genuinely illogical response, but I'm used to that on this subject.

Note how, in this thread, I didn't suggest or imply that my taxes should be lowered. Yet your immediate emotional response is to tell me to shut the f**k up and pay my taxes. Which I already do, and will continue to do. Truth is, I don't want lower taxes. I believe my bracket should be higher. I also believe that people within a bracket should be paying more or less the same, with as little deductions as possible. Tax credits encourage constant pandering across the entire population, and significantly diminish the efficiency and fairness of a tax system. They are highly influenced by graft and corruption, and change based on who holds office, with little long-term coherency.

They are a tool to win votes, while proceeding with whatever agenda you want, regardless of how fiscally irresponsible it is.

In the post above your horrendous screed, I even said that I agree there are more pressing deductions to go after first.

The weird part is, you're not even a parent. I get the emotional response when it's your actual money and KID on line. But this is almost like a form of ideo-parental cuckoldry.
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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby Kane » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:25 pm

Nah, Todd said it right. You're not supposed to respond to Saz' posts - you just sit back and revel in its novelty.
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Re: Pandering to Parents

Postby Saz » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:57 pm

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Re: Pandering to Parents

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