Sanders announces 2020 bid...

[Kane]

[jimmyz]

[Spider]

1. The ocean is something like 140,000,000 square miles, Jimmy. I know math is hard...but can you even begin to comprehend how much water it would take to make that 140 million miles^2 6.5 inches deeper? And considering how high water's specific heat is...and how much energy it takes to phase change it to liquid to begin with...the amount of energy we're talking about is simply mind-boggling. Yes. Horrifying. Stop and think about it for a minute.

2. In order for man to have had no effect...there would need to be some sort of intervention from a supernatural actor. It's not opinion, it's not supposition. The belief that humanity adding millions of tons of greenhouse gas to the atmosphere, massively dropping the pH of the oceans (carbonic acid. Look it up. It's what happens when all that carbon gets soaked up by the oceanic carbon sink), and more or less pumping mind boggling amounts of extra energy into the system...has no effect? Because....magic? I guess? Madness.

It's like believing dropping a Tide pod into your fish tank would have no effect.

[Kane]

[NAB]

I think I’d rather step on legos with a bare foot than attempt to convince jimmy he’s wrong on climate change.

[jimmyz]

[jimmyz]

[John Galt]

[John Galt]

i love the ice age bit. "scientists in the 70s!!!!!!!!" my dad says it to me too. "experts used to think X".

no, majority used to think the same thing they think now, some of them disagreed. they were shown to be wrong.

i have as much "faith" in the science behind global warming as i have "faith" that if i step off a balcony i will fall. its hard for scientists to explain that when they say "theory" this is the kind of theory they are talking about, not theories that are concocted from the apparently near nothing that is inside lay people's skulls. and sometimes scientists are wrong. sometimes experts are wrong. just because other experts were wrong before doesn't mean that these experts -- who have been right all along! -- are somehow now wrong. that's why i love the ice age bit, because it exposes how much of a f**k idiot you are if you believe it. once this is pointed out though, they just abandon using that bit (with the person they are arguing with) and do not admit they were wrong, and that scientists, have, for over 100 years, been talking about this. this is an article from 1912 Popular Mechanics -- science for dummies -- which explains coal and climate change

https://books.google.com/books?id=Tt4DA ... &q&f=false

and here is popular mechanics -- science, for dummies -- repeatedly talking about it over a century

https://www.popularmechanics.com/scienc ... te-change/

[Kane]