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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

Postby Saz » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:22 pm

DON'T BE A TOUGH GUY. DON'T BE A FOOL! I WILL CALL YOU LATER.
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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 election

Postby Saz » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:28 pm

DON'T BE A TOUGH GUY. DON'T BE A FOOL! I WILL CALL YOU LATER.
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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

Postby Kane » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:19 pm

Meh. I like Pete but I'll vote for Sander's if he wins the nomination. I'm down for a free and fair primary - but if the Dems can't win a majority in the Senate the whole presidency is moot. That goes for any candidate of the Dems. McCaskill is out and Tester just squeezed by. I don't know how much Bernie helps the Dems in the Senate.

Senate 2020:/0

NC, GA, ME, AZ, CO, NM, MN, MI, VA, NH, KY, TN, MS, TX, KS, IA, and MT.

Five of those lean blue. Ten lean red. Two are straight unknown. The rest are pretty much accounted for. Dems need to hang onto everything and win four. There's still a lot of time between now and then but if it's even leaning red I'm calling it gone at this point. Look at what we all know by now. So what states will the Dems likely focus on:

AZ, CO, NH, VA, MI, MN, and NM. AL was a fluke - you could throw Kris Kobach in there and that state would go back to red.

Here's the current cook report: https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-el ... cal-report

GOP: 53
DEMS: 46

Now let's look at how much these states felt the bern!!!

Bernie lost NM, AZ, and VA to Hillary. So now we're down to MI, MN, NH, and CO. Bernie had comfortable leads in these with exception to MI. Michigan is -12 on Trump right now but who knows what that means for Bernie and the Dems. On top of that - VA is only -2 on Trump right now.

Even if Bern got the nomination the Dems have to play a field like they've never played before.

I'm pretty ambivalent at this point. I'm doing well and working on my future. I'll vote for the Dem and see what happens. And an FYI - CA is going to start turning less blue soon. People are starting to lose it here.
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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

Postby exploited » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:20 pm

Now, as for Africa.

Have you noticed how all the most exploitative industries in the world seem to come from the most diverse and resource-rich parts of the world?

I've said this before: you can't have the suburbs without the ghetto. Africa is a giant resource sink being farmed by conglomerates, with the usual horrific results. Warlords aren't getting their funds from the people they terrorize - they are getting their funds from foreigners, who will pay for palm oil and diamonds and rare earth minerals, regardless of how it was delivered, or by whom.

We simply don't know what Africa is like, because we won't stop f**k with it. When the Western governments moved out, the Western corporations moved in. And now China is moving in. The history of modern Africa is everyone fighting for it, then going "Whoa man Africa is brutal, thank God I don't live there," then funding another massacre.
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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

Postby Philly » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:33 pm

go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

Postby Kane » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:14 am

Yeah I don't buy that. The Dems don't want Bernie in the general because they're afraid he'll lose. Getting too conspiratorial.

That said I'll gladly vote for Bernie if he gets through the primary. Sorry that he's not my first choice.
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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

Postby Kane » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:11 am

Well that's dumb. We already went left with the ACA. Maybe that's been too gradual, not amended enough, etc but the trend is pretty clear.

If that's really the case then the Dems are screwed either way.
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Re: Centrist Democrats aim to lose 2020 elections

Postby exploited » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:32 am

lmfao
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