Democratic Primary

[Saz]

[Saz]

BTW what is Biden running for again? Just no Trump? What's his f**k healthcare, or any other, policy? Guy is like a one man band without his buddy Barack.

[exploited]

[Saz]

No he is obviously incredibly intelligent and after a few years at McKinsey and a few pretending to be in the millitary, he has become quite adept at mimicking human emotion. The guy is a raging psychopath but most voters are thick as pig shit and can’t see though it because Pete is actually decent at hiding it. He is deliberately an empty suit who says f**k all because that’s the Obama school of politics, never get pinned down on anything specific, talk about lofty values and do what you can to hide your aspBerger’s syndrome while convincing voters you are an every man of the people. You would think he is obviously and everyone can see through this shit, but remember Iowa voters dumb as brick etc etc. This is why black people don’t like him though...black people are actually incredible judges of character and they won’t know what’s off about him, but they know something is off.

[Kane]

[Saz]

I mean I like the guy don’t get me wrong but how is this different than Kerry or HRC? Dems are retarded

[John Galt]

the scandinavian model of safety nets has created a situation where there are more billionares per capita in sweden than in america

this is because the scandinavian model for saftey nets means that everyone making over about 65K in the US would have 55% tax bracket, if following denmark's lead
Plus another 20% VAT tax

all of which impacts the poor and middleclass

bernie seems to be a bit delusional about what the scandnavian model is, thinking it was back when he was a middle aged man in the 60s. that economic model literally failed, and they had to make significant reforms. now employment is actually increasing but there is no longer significant controls on the economy, and like i said, they have more billionaires per capita

so if bernie wants to be honest, it would require tax burden on the middle class, not just the billionaires, in order to pay for the safety net

and "guaranteed job for all" is not scandinavian style democratic socialism -- it's soviet style. but maybe we'll get some of those literacy initiates from castro's cuba Bernie is fond of

look medicare for all, something we should be looking at doing. national rent control, job control, trade control, economy control? not in my america


so what are democrats doing? they are trying to put a reasonable candidate out there.

[Kane]

...maybe they have more billionaires per capita because their schools are better funded, social mobility is MUCH higher, and they have a more prevalent entrepreneurial spirit/innovation?

Here innovation is stifled by kleptocracy/monopoly (Depending on industry/market), social mobility is not good relative to our industrial peers, and schools depends on various funding methods that are advantageous for wealthier districts and disadvantageous for the poor/less wealthy.

Why does that taxation automatically confer failure? Why is having more billionaires necessarily a bad thing?

Moreoever, higher taxes on everybody would also mean no out of pocket expenses. And there aren't any honest analyses of the impact of Medicare for all that don't include the caveat that they simply don't know. Some studies show M4A saving trillions, some show it breaking even, and a few show it costing more in the long run.

The point is - we've been trying the same thing for decades now and it doesn't seem to be getting better. Everybody with exception to Warren and Sanders wants to try to "fix the current system." America is done with that schtick.

[Kane]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... -2020-race

Klob is out. Endorsed Biden. VP?

Moderates are probably being pressured by DNC to shore up Biden.

[Spider]

It's demographics. Olds remember the Cold War. Olds have a VERY different reaction to the word socialism than youngs. And Olds show up to vote in FAR greater numbers. Bernie should have have called it Democratic Progressivism or something. Anything but the S word. Now he gets attack ads (and effective ones) painting him as a commie all the way to November...turning off the Democratic Olds and practically launching the Republican ones to the polls in star spangled catapults.

It's a nightmare for the DNC. And I'm saying it now: I don't think Sanders beats trump against that S-word headwind. And I don't think many of us people too young to remember that whole Soviet thing are equipped to understand how the Olds (the majority of voters) feel about this...even if they don't openly admit it...that programming runs all the way back to the cradle.

But I don't care. I'm voting for Bernie. He'll win here without a doubt, not that it matters.