Pot Legal in Colo and Wash?

[exploited]

On issues of police, I'd say that Americans and Canadians are almost identical in how we like them: subservient.

[eynon81]

[OGPhilly]

Well I think Murika has been very slightly trending toward more of a police state over the years but fortunately Americans still find this kind of shit objectionable.

[Boris Johnson]

[OGPhilly]

I'd just like to point out that Boris strawmanned in a very similar manner about our notions of free expression in a previous thread. It's ok to have a different concept of freedom than Americans do, but the childish insults and strawmans are unnecessary.

[Boris Johnson]

[OGPhilly]

Either you're strawmanning or you don't understand the difference between calling something a violation of constitutional rights and calling it horrific tyrrany

[exploited]

Boris, I don't think you're going to get a rational answer for why we oppose it so much.

Mostly I'd say it is because, as mentioned before, North Americans don't like police. We don't like them being able to tell us what to do; we accept it, but even your average North American is going to get pretty damned irate the moment a cop starts bossing them around.

Secondly, we will accept certain things that are actually far more violent, but infinitely less personal. I have no problem being handcuffed and taken away; if I swear at a cop and get thrown against his trunk, that is exactly the sort of response I expect from cops. What I don't expect, nor what I could ever allow, would be for a cop to take my blood. I am not an animal to be prodded everything the State thinks I've been naughty. If that prodding is done, I want it done by a medical professional with no interest in my case, and I want a judge to okay it.

Just about every North American feels a visceral and yeah-irrational-but-still-valid disgust at the thought of police officers taking blood. So if you want an answer, that is the closest thing you are going to get to the truth.

[Boris Johnson]

[Boris Johnson]