Republican Party ready to embrace immigrants?

[Dylan]

[Professor]

[Dylan]

Criminals lose numerous rights. Gun possession, voting, freedom of movement, freedom to live in certain areas, freedom of association, all sorts of things. Similarly, they can apply to have these rights restored. No difference here. To continue with your analogy to criminals, which is not especially apt, sex offenders remain registered often for the rest of their lives and are subject to some degree of monitoring. As are parolees. Again, no differences. It's remedial, to ensure they don't re-offend or to lessen th chances of recidivism. Same here with jurisdictions that have proven untrustworthy. Many people with DWIs are indeed forced to use a built I'm breathalyzer for a substantial period of time after.

You keep overlooking that any jurisdiction that can meet the burden can have the automatic review lifted. If they don't need to be babysat, they can prove it.

Mechanisms exist through which claims can be brought, such as the NAACP, etc., but why rely on that exclusively?

What's the benefit that you see in relying entirely on costly and time-intensive litigation for the protection of voting rights as opposed to simple DOJ review of states who we unable to prove they no longer discriminate in the process of redistricting?

[Professor]

[Dylan]

Should i assume you are dropping the criminal anaology? That's a good move given how much it cuts against your argument.

The criteria aren't that onerous, really. It merely incentivizes states to monitor their own local jurisdictions. This is a good thing. Not sure if you were aware, but voting is an important right that deserves protection.

Yes, why rely on private litigation to uphold public rights. They may step in, but if they don't it might be because they lack funds or knowledge of the problem. If they do, it may take a decade and millions of dollars to obtain relief.

The DOJ civil rights division does this all the time and has created set standards for jurisdictions to comply with. These standards, by the way, are why jurisdictions with histories of racism can usually avoid redistricting problems today.

Proving a sec 5 violation is much more challenging and expensive than proving a failure to comply with a prior order, as in the case of DOJ review. Administrative review has lower evidentiary burdens, etc.

The DOJ does much more than just prosecute. This is such an example. They often perform oversight functions to ensure the less enlightened jurisdictions in the US remain in te 21st century. Jurisdictions are, of course, free to appeal their decisions to the courts.

[Professor]

[Dylan]

While Latinos tend toward social conservatism more so than other demographics, the gap isn't as wide as some would have you believe. The GOP will need to both tone down the social conservatism and the immigration issue to appeal to broad swathes of Latino voters. This would bag some moderate too. And REPULSE the republican base.

[wormwood]

[Dennis]

The Republican Party has a golden egg opportunity right in front of them. Hispanics are often socially conservative. They would actually fit in the Republican Party rather well.

Also tweak the educational stance - pull in the youth vote, and you probably have a winning ticket.

[Dylan]

Not all that social conservative, really. The GOP needs to figure out how to win back women, cut into dems huge advantages with Latino voters, and chip away at the youth vote.

Their main demographic is literally dying off. They need to evolve.