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Re: UKIP couple have foster children removed

Postby Boris Johnson » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:17 pm

I like how no ones mentioning the Lib Dems.

Its exactly this sort of ignoring of them, that allows them to make gains. No one considers them a viable threat, Tories and labour batter the shit out of each other and ignore the Liberal democrats. Ignore seats they consider safe and the other party won't engage with, Liberal democrats soop in using some very clever tatics largely revolving around actually engaging with the public (lot of this is ramping up now as a matter of fact). Allowing them, then to pick up a seat here and seat there. There biggest problem has and always will be gerrymandered seats (more than they have never been in the position to gerrymander unlike labour and the tories) and the geographically distributed nature of their support. Its none the less something like 33% tory, 33% labour, now at worst 18% liberal democrats. One of the largest historical criticisms has been the lack of political control beyond a local government level, that narrative is now gone.

And if you think their going to be either Labour or the tories focus at the next election... I would have to ask why you thought that.

In 2 1/2 years the most negative thing about them is still likely to be 'uhhh Nick Clegg, tuition fees BADDDDDD, I RETARDED VOX POP' and 'uhhh sell outs'. Hell, most of the negative comments about them, are largely coming from shit comedians and pissed off eternal students.

For despite the drum banging of the NUS. Hah. students as a sustained and credible political force. Want that, go to France. Here for all the marches, do they turn up in droves on election day. Nope.

Frankly people who write the Liberal democrats off, don't really get how the system works. I'd be surprised if they didn't pick up a seat or two next election. Which means unless the tories face a wash, which... they just might, just not 100%. We get the whole coalition go around again.

Worse can scenario, loose maybe 5-6 seats. Though this depends on militant NUS elements getting the vote out and getting it sustainably to labour, which... yeah.. good luck with that.
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Re: UKIP couple have foster children removed

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Re: UKIP couple have foster children removed

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Re: UKIP couple have foster children removed

Postby Decypher » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:03 am

So what's going to happen if Scotland and all her labour voters leave Britain? Permanent Tory government with a fragmented opposition of Labour, Lib Dems and hardline right-wing types like in the OP?

Worrying if so.
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Re: UKIP couple have foster children removed

Postby Boris Johnson » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:59 am

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Re: UKIP couple have foster children removed

Postby lil bit » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:56 am

Apparently heads must roll for this decision, from what I can tell from the popular press. Outrage!

The children have an Eastern European background and their social workers had already been criticised by a judge for not considering their cultural and ethnic needs enough when placing them in foster care.

Barnardos don't allow UKip members to foster, either.

Personally, I'm glad of it. These children already have enough problems.

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Of British parties only UKIP voted against EU enlargement in the European Parliament that has resulted in over 600,000 Eastern European immigrants entering Britain. It is IMPOSSIBLE to regain control of our borders within the EU. UKIP will freeze immigration for 5 years and speed up deportation of up to 1 million illegal immigrants. UKIP is a non racist/non sectarian party."


Oh well, if they say it, it must be true!
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Re: UKIP couple have foster children removed

Postby lil bit » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:47 am

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Re: UKIP couple have foster children removed

Postby The Dharma Bum » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:33 am

So in the EU they decide whether your permissible level of social participation according to your political beliefs?

Sounds horrible, no wonder these guys want to leave the EU.
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