FOX News: The War on Men

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This argument is so old. I can't believe it's still going on well into the second decade of the millennium. It was old when I was a girl, which some time ago, now. Men want different things, just as women do. There is no one size fits all and never has been. We, meaning as members of society, were once all shoved into a pigeon hole dictated by our sex and the class into which we were born, but that's no longer true for most of us and hasn't been for some time.

I suppose I should have known better, really, because people are reluctant to change and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to accept new ideas and I suppose fifty odd years in the history of mankind is a mere bagetelle in some ways, but kids of Sazari's age shouldn't be thinking like this.

Equal opportunities for men and women were a more or less done thing before he was born. My own children have been brought up in a society that believes nobody is limited in what they choose to do with their lives because of their gender, which was nothing much to do with what they learnt from me , but was generally known and accepted by the younger members of society and taken for granted.

The old school that believed women did the child rearing and men brought brought home the bacon have all more or less all toppled off this mortal coil by now.

There is still a significant number who believe women and men have a duty to take advantage of what was a new way of thinking when they were young. That women should have a career because they can, and men should take their turn at staying at home and bringing up the children because they should, but they're usually over 50.

Sadly, there is still a lot of prejudice around perpetuated by the few dinosaurs who still lumber around this earth, confused and frightened and getting in everyone's way, but try to shrug and move on, Sazari.

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[Revenant]

[nordictruce]

This is probably the most hot button topic for me that there is.

What I am about to say is not meant to rile up, I'm speaking in a matter of fact manner.

I'm a 29 year old successful entrepreneur who is single with no kids. I have seen my fair share of women. Been engaged, been in a few real relationships, a lot more non serious relationships. And I get it from the opposite sex every damn day.. you think you are hot shit don't you (actually i do but that's not the point) you are a player aren't you? why can't you commit? And I make no bones about telling women they hey, I'm not on what you would call the marriage track.

however, I'm not anti marriage. In fact i wouldn't mind seeing a mini nordictruce running around my house I'm almost 30.

here is the issue.. I don't need a woman. And become women don't need a man, they are less likely (seemingly as a whole) to confirm to what a man wants, thus there is no need to get married. In short, if you would give me something to put a ring on I would happily do it.

I've tried it all. Business women, lol not so business women. Good Girls, bad girls, good girls who think they are bad, bad girls who think they are good, daddy's girls, girls with daddy issues, girls of my race, girls not of my race, and i'm not saying I never have had any good relationships and i"m not the best boyfriend on earth I have my quirks and my issues, but.. i haven't seen anything worth putting a ring on yet and utnil I do, I won't. my last semi serious GF is 1 year older than me, is cute and witty and she gets me but other than that, nada. no ambitions, not particularly nice lol, she's a flower of paradise for no other reason than she can be, she can't cook, she doesn't work out (i work out daily) all her hobbies revolve around drinking and watching deadliest catch.. so excuse me when i am not keen on your fast track to marriage i don't care what ultimatum you throw down at me.

And that's not counting the decent ones who I ahve to be Yankee whitened just to go on a date with. I had a girl.. who LIKED me.. we went on 3 dates, and sent me.. by email mind you. .and this is after we had.. you know.. so she liked me.. tell me it wasn't gonna work beucase she doesn't know if her family is going to get along with mine (she's white i'm black).. and I mean, i let women weed themselves out but this is the woman who in 10 years is screaming how they aren't any good men around.

However I am not blaming women. women are free to do and demand as they choose just as I do. But women need to understand, I don't want to date or marry me. I really could give 2 shits about how educated a woman is, I make enough moeny for the both of us. When I come home from work I don't want to hear about your struggle to get to the top of your coroperate office that's why I come home in the first place. So the women who put all the stock into going to school, and that's great nothing wrong with that.. but dont' get pissy when I decide I want someone who is not like me for a life partner.


It's a dog eat dog world. I didn't say too peeps when I couldn't get a girl to look at me 10 years ago beucase i was overweight and struggling financially. I didn't bitch beucase women liked what they liked and I wasn't it. So don't bitch that now I can date 22-24 year old girls with better figures than you beucase you went to college. it's the decisions we make

see here's the thing. Women want to "have it all". They assume that men can "have it all" and we can't. do you know how long I went dateless/lifeless starting my company? too f**k long. There aren';t guys who have kick ass GF's who are busting 80 hour work weeks at their start up company and their smoking hot GF is okay with them eating noodles and 1 dollar pizzas all day long. That's a part of your life you have to put off. men understand this. At least I did. And it was something I accepted.

i will admit there are advantages to being a male in the sense, i could put off dating women while i worked on my business and not have any long term effects, but i couldn't do both at the same time and achieve the level of success i wanted to achieve with the business.

what most women refer to as feminism is really egoism; most women think they are entitled to a man fawning over them and think that they should be able to have that kick ass legal job paying 120k a year and drinking high balls at 9pm at the local upscale bar with all her legal friends and still have the kick ass husband at home at the same time. f**k, men can't do that lol. at 29 and the business I own 5 years in, I can't be a devoted husband/father and not have my business not keep growing like it is. I work 60-80 hours a week women dont' want to hear that.

they are chasing a fantasy that we can't even get to

That's your problem. Women need to decide do they want to be wives, or do they want to be business people. But you can't be both.. and be highy successful at both.. at the same time.

[nordictruce]

and as far as a war on men there is one. women have sex with who they want when they want their 20's and they are liberated. then they turn around and the media shames men for not marrying the same women once their sexual fair ground has commenced.

women falls out of love and leves a man she's prudent. man falls out of love and leaves his wife he's a piece of shit.

show me the last commercial that demonizes/degrades the female gender. one. just one. i can show you 20 off the top of my ehad the other way.


men are getting fed up. women are a lot like republicans in this sense, you can shame us, talk about us but at the end of the day if you want our vote, you are going to have to change. and that's all there is to it. we aren't signing up for this bullshit. You notice you never see men starting articles about marriage. I don't care. I have zero qualms about not paying 50k for a wedding ceremony, and being able to go out 1-2 nights a week with dates and have casual sex. It's not that pressing to me. You aren't going to shame me into marriage. If it's that important to women, i would advise women to ask men what would make them more suitable wives.

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[Spider]

That phrase kinda stuck with me as well. There is only one standard. If men can be both, so can women.

Unless of course he's saying that neither can do both well, which I kinda agree with.

[Kane]

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[Spider]

Most people I've met who are trying to pull this off are either leaning unfairly on their spouse to pick up the slack, or are themselves being leaned on. Eventually, something's gotta give. Huge potential for ugliness, and two like minded people with similar goals and drive are only going to wind up diametrically opposed.

"Having it all" is a damned fantasy. You simply have to make compromises and concessions, and accept a reduced effectiveness all around. You can have 15 excellent tools in a drawer, or you can combine them all into a swiss army knife and muddle your way through.