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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

Postby Medius » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:43 pm

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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

Postby PoS » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:52 pm

I think the reason why so many men are disillusioned right now is the fault of the triumvirate between feminists, the liberal media and government- to wit: feminists created the brouhaha that wimmen were being discriminated against, the press then magnified it and in response the government created laws that gave advantages to women in marriage and child custody.

A lot of these issues could have been averted had government stayed out of marriage and not created civil and tax laws to regulate it.

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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

Postby Aaron » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:35 am

Sure, and if we'd just kept women in the kitchen, there wouldn't be a war on Christmas.
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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

Postby Kane » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:48 am

Go to bed em.
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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

Postby Hyperion » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:30 am

That's your opinion, and it's been consistently asserted, but what's the evidence?

I'm interested in the demographics of the future, not people who will die out in 20 years. How are young more women confronting more problems than young men when almost all sociological indicators point to the opposite?

Feminism as a movement to empower women is increasingly irrelevant in a world where women are taking over the pedestal of power. I'm not talking about sharing power, but instead actually holding power at the expense of men's livelihood. Women were never really a "minority." Patriarchy (if we're going to call it that) wasn't as violent as the oppression religious, ethnic, and sexual minorities faced. The fact feminists even try to compare their plight to the plight of blacks is sickening. Your notion of history is highly skewed if you're trying to compare slavery to the position women served in traditional society. "Patriarchy" developed because of economic necessity: as we became dependent on agriculture, seasonal work (and protecting private property) placed a larger emphasis on the male. Women are pretty much vulnerable during the second and third trimester of pregnancy, and they couldn't contribute to economical success as much since gathering became a trivial hobby at best. This eventually developed into general gender roles. It wasn't men beating their wives over the head with clubs. The fact you even hinted at the "thoughtless caveman" stereotype shows how feminism has indoctrinated you to be prejudiced against your own gender.

I dispute the notion of "patriarchy" anyway. Other than war-torn societies, it's more appropriate to label classical society as dependent on gender roles. Women were not treated like children or even property. Their care was considered to be the man's primary responsibility. Indeed, during many periods in European history if your wife committed a crime, the husband was held responsible.
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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

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Re: FOX News: The War on Men

Postby exploited » Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:38 am

Ah, so feminists are to blame for men wanting to get married then? That is how I read your post, correct me if I'm wrong.

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With women increasingly displacing men, and refusing to play roles that men had previously assumed they themselves weren't meant to play, its a pretty logical outcome that men are going to be confused about what it is they are supposed to be doing within a gender role paradigm that no longer exists. Women move into formerly men's roles, and its celebrated. Displaced men don't have the option of moving into formerly women's roles without become objects of derision...and so men just say, "Hell with it" and don't play the game at all.


What roles are men trying to play and getting derided for?
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