Manufacturing in the US
26 posts
• Page 2 of 3 • 1, 2, 3
Re: Manufacturing in the US
by Hyperion » Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:17 am
Still preferable to retail. Just don't make college degree programs for manufacturing. It should be a job you acquire straight out of high school.
-
Hyperion - Senator
- Posts: 1029
- Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:23 pm
- Gender:
- Has thanked: 5 times
- Been thanked: 121 times
- Political Leaning: Libertarian Socialist
Re: Manufacturing in the US
by Spider » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:16 pm
I've always thought it would be cool if in high school people who weren't planning to college track could get little certificates that show them to have a basic understanding of welding, small engine repair, electronics, carpentry, etc etc...something they could show to an employer after they graduate to demonstrate that they've got a grasp of the basics, and are worth training.
Most people coming out of high school have absolutely zero marketable skills. The whole system is set up to prepare them for college freshman coursework. Which means they are qualified to sweep the floors at a 7-11. Maybe not even that.
We need two tracks in high school. Its a waste of resources to teach Benny the chemistry geek how to change a brake pad, and its a waste of resources to tell Chuck the car nut how to balance a chemical equation.
Most people coming out of high school have absolutely zero marketable skills. The whole system is set up to prepare them for college freshman coursework. Which means they are qualified to sweep the floors at a 7-11. Maybe not even that.
We need two tracks in high school. Its a waste of resources to teach Benny the chemistry geek how to change a brake pad, and its a waste of resources to tell Chuck the car nut how to balance a chemical equation.
-
Spider - VIP
- Posts: 12847
- Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:38 pm
- Location: Out in the sticks.
- Gender:
- Has thanked: 932 times
- Been thanked: 1067 times
- Political Leaning: Anarcho Communist
Re: Manufacturing in the US
by exploited » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:40 pm
- These users thanked the author exploited for the post:
- Bill_in_Bethlehem
-
exploited - Vice President
- Posts: 23035
- Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:32 pm
- Location: Ontario, Canada
- Gender:
- Has thanked: 2562 times
- Been thanked: 1837 times
Re: Manufacturing in the US
by WizardfromOz » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:09 pm
-
WizardfromOz - Senator
- Posts: 1625
- Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:33 am
- Gender:
- Has thanked: 3 times
- Been thanked: 87 times
Re: Manufacturing in the US
by John Galt » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:12 pm
Americans learn only from catastrophe and not from experience. -- Theodore Roosevelt
My life has become a single, ongoing revelation that I haven’t been cynical enough.
My life has become a single, ongoing revelation that I haven’t been cynical enough.
-
John Galt - Technical Admin
- Posts: 14869
- Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:22 pm
- Location: Bowling Green Massacre Survivor
- Gender:
- Has thanked: 719 times
- Been thanked: 1497 times
- Political Leaning: Classic Liberal
Re: Manufacturing in the US
by Mathurin » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:23 am
What everyone is talking about is called the skills gap, its been discussed ad nauseum for over a decade, nobody seems to be doing anything about it.
And while some manufacturing jobs ARE simple assembly, not all are, they need CNC mill operators, robot programmers, maintenance men.
Those jobs require knowledge, some of it fairly high level, including math.
Those jobs also pay pretty well.
I am torn on the whole 2 track system, I hated school during public education, I just wanted out so I underachieved. I would have been shunted into a trade tack for sure.
I started college as a time waster, and found a place where learning actually occurred and was valued, I loved the environment and while I didnt exactly excel (many of the underachieving habits had become ingrained) I did learn a ton, graduated, and became an entirely different person. In a two track system we would all but bar folks like me from college.
And while some manufacturing jobs ARE simple assembly, not all are, they need CNC mill operators, robot programmers, maintenance men.
Those jobs require knowledge, some of it fairly high level, including math.
Those jobs also pay pretty well.
I am torn on the whole 2 track system, I hated school during public education, I just wanted out so I underachieved. I would have been shunted into a trade tack for sure.
I started college as a time waster, and found a place where learning actually occurred and was valued, I loved the environment and while I didnt exactly excel (many of the underachieving habits had become ingrained) I did learn a ton, graduated, and became an entirely different person. In a two track system we would all but bar folks like me from college.
- Mathurin
- Congressman
- Posts: 581
- Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:58 pm
- Gender:
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 19 times
- Political Leaning: Slightly Conservative
Re: Manufacturing in the US
by The Tooth » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:41 am
-
The Tooth - Mayor
- Posts: 275
- Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:21 pm
- Location: Calgary, AB
- Gender:
- Has thanked: 0 time
- Been thanked: 12 times
- Political Leaning: Very Liberal
26 posts
• Page 2 of 3 • 1, 2, 3
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 78 guests