Nearly 60% Support Legal Same Sex Marriage, 80% Youth

[The Dude]

[eynon81]

[John Galt]

[The Tooth]

Gay people should be allowed to marry regardless of whether Galt considers marriages between gay people real or not. Galt's opinion matters only to Galt; none of us are obliged to keep him happy. Seeing to it that gay people are not regarded by the law as second-class citizens is far more important.

[The Dude]

1. I was annoyed by how much time was spent on Standing. Sure seemed like Roberts is trying to find a way not to rule on the case and keep the 9th's ruling intact (or lower court) that way. But the pathway towards that would be disastrous and really unthinkable to take away standing.

2. Olsen should have simply told Scalia when the 14th was adopted. But it wasn't one of Scalia's finer days.

3. Cooper's argument was lulzworthy.

4. Kennedy wants absolutely no part of this case. He knows he is possibly the deciding vote and wants out but it stuck.


Still think what I said previously will hold true. DOMA gone, prop 8 officially gone (one way or another). the only question is how narrow the case will be. Will it just be Cali, will it just be states with civil unions and same-sex marriage, or will it apply to the entire US? Since I always thought they wouldn't take this case for a few more years, it's possible the first 2 will apply and they will wait til a new case arrives from a state with a ban in a few years (that didn't previously not have a ban). Probably when Scalia retires/dies.

edit: I will say prop 8 may be gone for the most part or up to a later challenge. I wouldn't be surprised if the Court decided to hit the reset button on granting cert and just sending it back.

[eynon81]

The affordable care act decision showed us all how meaningless oral argument truly is.

[Homer]

Question:
Would the idea of "The pursuit of happiness" in the declaration of independence, which Lincoln said was a statement of principles through which the United States Constitution should be interpreted, play a part in the supreme courts decision?

It could be argued that denying same sex marriage is an infringement of the inalianable right to the pursuit of happiness.

[eynon81]

[John Galt]

[The Dharma Bum]